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1  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: Today at 12:45:13 AM
I apologise for this up front embarassed

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Researchers for the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority found over 200 dead crows near greater Boston recently, and there was concern that they may have died from Avian Flu.
...
 
The Ornithological Behaviorist very quickly concluded the cause: when crows eat road kill, they always have a look-out crow in a nearby tree to warn of impending danger. They discovered that while all the lookout crows could shout "Cah", not a single one could shout "Truck"

They missed getting in the word "TurnPaahk"!
cheesy

But ya know, on a medium "straight man" level, "shaggy dog" jokes seem to have dramatically declined in the net age.

The last time I saw jokes with this kind of really big set up was in a British joke book for kids, I think from Harrod's, from the 1980's.

The net seems to like its jokes with "faster punchlines", whether it's Nyancat, or webcomics, or Youtube videos, or your choice of thirteen other things.

2  Special User Sections / DC Website Help and Extras / Re: I have put a "share with facebook" type thing on the pages (temporarily?).. on: March 29, 2015, 09:17:53 PM
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That "thread aggregator" is one of the most powerful features of the opening forum page for me! First thing I do is *scroll down* to see what the threads are! Then I right-click a few of them to get ready for some reading.
You might also enjoy the list of recent topics and recent posts, both linked from the top of the forum pages.

I've looked at those, but with a slight tinge of today's obsession with TV tropes, the aggregator has a huge "innovative value" (Implementation trademarked by Mouser, most rights reserved!)

What it does is make sure that *ten threads* are merged, and it can never be less than 10. (Except maybe one day if there's a setting per member. What about more?)

So the stunning innovation vs the "older tech" recent posts is that, that view produces the following:
(Some humor below!)

---------------------------------------------

Why Mouser Rules
Hooray for the Fundraiser
How to improve DC - What about a CMS?
Sharing Buttons - where, how big, and what do they do?
Linguistic analysis of emotional markers of Stephen's last five posts over 400 words long
Honesty is what you are thinking, Balanced tone is what you should be thinking
Why Mouser Rules
Hooray for the Fundraiser
How to improve DC - What about a CMS?
Sharing Buttons - where, how big, and what do they do?
Why Mouser Rules
Hooray for the Fundraiser
How to improve DC - What about a CMS?
Sharing Buttons - where, how big, and what do they do?
Why Mouser Rules
Hooray for the Fundraiser
How to improve DC - What about a CMS?
Sharing Buttons - where, how big, and what do they do?
Why Mouser Rules
Hooray for the Fundraiser
How to improve DC - What about a CMS?
Sharing Buttons - where, how big, and what do they do?
Why Mouser Rules
Hooray for the Fundraiser
How to improve DC - What about a CMS?
Sharing Buttons - where, how big, and what do they do?
Why Mouser Rules
Hooray for the Fundraiser
How to improve DC - What about a CMS?
Sharing Buttons - where, how big, and what do they do?
Why Mouser Rules
Hooray for the Fundraiser
How to improve DC - What about a CMS?
Sharing Buttons - where, how big, and what do they do?
Why Mouser Rules
Hooray for the Fundraiser
How to improve DC - What about a CMS?
Sharing Buttons - where, how big, and what do they do?
--------------------------------------------------------

Whew! Oh look! That's only six threads!

There's more that weren't talked about for three whole days!

: )

So, how hard is it to get a modular x setting per member to expand that section?



3  Special User Sections / DC Website Help and Extras / Re: I have put a "share with facebook" type thing on the pages (temporarily?).. on: March 29, 2015, 07:59:03 PM
And since there is currently no room on most of those pages, without a slight redesign, and if there is plans on moving the main site to a CMS adding them now would be a waste of work, that was why I said to wait.

I'll add something to this small snippet, from a slightly different perspective.

Apparently some "purist" developers make the same judgement choice that has in another domain, caused me to lose several chess games: "Why bother to make that first small move with a pawn or a piece, when you're just going to move it again? It's a waste of ___". Chess tempi, work, etc.

But the right answer can be more often than we think, "because the double-step accomplishes something small and definite *right now* like developing a certain piece, or actually locking in concrete improvements to the site, rather than waiting on the unclear future for imagined savings of time or tempi in the future, which may not ever happen at all!"

So I'll try a really bold approach:
Leave the bottom buttons there. Because to me there are *two sets* of content on DC forum pages!

That "thread aggregator" is one of the most powerful features of the opening forum page for me! First thing I do is *scroll down* to see what the threads are! Then I right-click a few of them to get ready for some reading.

And *then* I scroll to the top, to check PM messages and the fundraiser and prepare to open a chat tab. So just do App's idea and put a *second set of buttons* at the top! I'll leave it for y'all later to fine tune which function buttons go where.

Meanwhile, jump over the hurdle of "potential super efficiency later" and ... just put in App's suggestion ... right now! Because we've amiably pondered site redesigns for years! So ... the move to a CMS is not going to happen "soon enough"! So ... just put in the sharing code. Right now. Develop that knight to d7 ... right now. Birds in hand vs more in the bush etc. The really fancy metaphor is the biz/finance one of the present value vs discounted future value. Put in our *own* tracker of what we gain from the sharing buttons! One new member *right now* is more important than the "future value of labor saved ... whenever"!

As for if "people ever get to the bottom of a page", that's back to that other edgy argument of our userbase ... I trust our core market ... is smart enough ... wait for it ... to scroll *all the way to the bottom of a page without getting exhausted and distracted by

oh look! a new episode of Castle! Bye!

Cool   tongue
4  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Windows 10 Announced on: March 29, 2015, 07:36:40 PM
The Anti-Climax Known as Windows 10  John C. Dvorak  PCMag.com

I've been waiting for years for someone to write The Anti-Climax Known as John C. Dvorak.

Well, not quite, John D "is his own climax". I just checked a couple of those articles, and basically if you put it in enough vitriolic biased language, you can make anything sound unbuyable! Let's try it!

"Well hell. Look at this $hit called ca$h. I mean it's F$cking paper that becomes almost unusable the minute it rains and you drop your wallet! Boom! Hundred buck$ down the drain. Almost literally. Well, it will sit there swirling until the dept of public works comes and bitches at your for making them spend an hour of billable time to clean it out of the drain holes. But tell ya what. I know a guy who knows a guy, so I'll take your ca$h right off you at a nice durable quarter on the $hitty dollar and give you either quarters, or on your debit card for a fee."

cheesy

5  Special User Sections / DC Website Help and Extras / Re: I have put a "share with facebook" type thing on the pages (temporarily?).. on: March 29, 2015, 05:23:32 AM

Also, this site is not inhabited by morons who don't know how to copy/paste an URL, so I don't really see what value they add.

This bit starts to get trickier the more we look at it!
6  Special User Sections / DC Website Help and Extras / Re: I have put a "share with facebook" type thing on the pages (temporarily?).. on: March 28, 2015, 09:00:07 PM

I'm okay with them.

7  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Program to override usual window close button with superfast TerminateProcess? on: March 26, 2015, 02:52:01 PM

Def check out the settings - I set it to "do not confirm" and a couple other things.

If I'm gonna go to that much effort to nuke something, I don't want the confirm box!
8  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Dreams thread... on: March 26, 2015, 02:42:15 PM

Got one!

The structure was a little strange - I was not quite "in control" like a full lucid one, but I could def tell portions of it unfolding.

Near as I can tell, it was like being a nobody-cast-extra in something on TV. By the lack of "dominating title characters", it felt like a TV movie.

It was something like a "soft crime" mystery taking place at something like a college where the Star Trek club got the funding for a "Day with Diana Muldaur (Dr. Pulaski from ST TNG)." Typical of those second string college activities where they can only afford one of the "B list" stars.

So we were all riding around in a car going places, and there was something about packages. Suppose Ms. Muldaur had either engineer or prop manager friends and maybe had brought custom Trekkian gifts for the club to mail home.

But because of a recent unrelated mail bomb scare, we were all talking about asking for police assistance while we mailed them to demonstrate the authenticity of the gifts.

It all went off without any "plot developments" - the tone was much more "slice of life". It gets a little fuzzy but I presume the Trek club and friends just wandered around campus and maybe the d-list local tourist attractions of a small college town and probably had lunch in there somewhere.

Fun little dream!

9  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: March 26, 2015, 02:18:15 PM
This is just batshit crazy...

These people are worried about being "triggered" by clapping. Really.


Anxiety inducing clapping:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNXElmEUIJo

cheesy

(I know there are new entries, but this is the most anxiety inducing!) 

10  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Program to override usual window close button with superfast TerminateProcess? on: March 26, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
On a related note, a browser I used to use called Opera took *so* long to close, that I always ended up quitting it with the task manager just to save time and prevent the HD from thrashing. I never suffered any ill effects as a result.

I'll remark that I've def seen ill effects from "hard closing" applications. On the browser side, in FF / PaleMoon, if it crashes or if you kill it, when you restart it tries (helpfully) to reload all your tabs. So you should decide what to do about that.

On other applications, I've definitely noticed lost data depending on how the program saves. So be careful!

11  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Tower Defense games collection updated 27-9-08 on: March 26, 2015, 02:12:26 PM

Hmm. In between my TV watching I might pick another game to amiably go after!

12  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Tower Defense games collection updated 27-9-08 on: March 26, 2015, 02:08:14 PM
Autobot update:

I beat it!

The key idea is you should upgrade your Optimus prime bots instead of always using single new ones.

After a "squeak win" by one life bar, once I knew I had the concept down, I went for a cleaner solid win.

[attachimg=#]

What takes a few seconds to explain is that this is the last level, and it's just about to fade to black with "you win." So this shot is the pattern (and "proof!) - even if one or both of those last enemies gets into the base, I clearly have enough life bars for a solid victory.

And unlike a fluke win, I have the pattern down enough so with a little care, it's repeatable.

But a really well done game!
13  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / New Bill Would Repeal Patriot Act on: March 25, 2015, 11:55:17 AM
Borrowing from Slashdot's copy:
http://yro.slashdot.org/s...-would-repeal-patriot-act

A new piece of bipartisan legislation that aims to repeal the Patriot Act and the FISA Amendments Act, which the NSA has used to justify broad domestic surveillance ... the Surveillance State Repeal Act.

http://thehill.com/policy...ely-dismantle-patriot-act

http://pocan.house.gov/si...0Repeal%20Act%20114th.pdf

The bill also attempts to dramatically strengthen whistleblower protections, so situations like Edward Snowden's and Thomas Drake's don't happen in the future. This legislation is not expected to get the support of Congressional leaders, but supporters hope it will at least inspire some debate about several provisions of the Patriot Act coming up for renewal in June.

http://thehill.com/blogs/...slate-against-big-brother

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I haven't dug into this yet - just getting the shell topic out there.

14  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: forum for javascript on: March 24, 2015, 08:11:54 PM

Kalos, do you have an IT guy in your company?

You're starting to get into a lot of topics!

15  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Dreams thread... on: March 24, 2015, 07:26:45 PM

Oh yeah, I recall now a small fragment of a dream - I've been watching too much procedural TV, so I recall "noticing" when I woke up the dream was boring, something about one of the govt accountability offices, so I "ditched it" as a boring dream!

"I'll try to have a cooler dream later"
cheesy
16  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 05:43:28 PM
can you tell me please how to make an excel script (VBA etc) to connect to a server and perform a search for a file?

Sorry no, that's outside what I know how to do!
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17  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The 2015 10th Anniversary DonationCoder.com Fundraiser Cheer for Victory Thread! on: March 24, 2015, 05:36:58 PM
^ smiley

on a practical note:
I wanted to give a couple of people donations - if I 'make a donation' does it all automatically go to the site?
or do I have do donate to the site after getting the credits, if you follow me.

If you right click a name, the last item on the bottom is "donate to this member".
: )

18  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 05:19:11 PM

Well, looks like the NoBBC button is there on the initial post, so I'll try to remember to do that next time!

19  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The 2015 10th Anniversary DonationCoder.com Fundraiser Cheer for Victory Thread! on: March 24, 2015, 05:06:00 PM
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Can't believe how long I have been here and how many words I must have typed during that time
we need a function that will export a pdf ebook for a user showing all posts that have participated in, with their contributions colored differently.

<-- is terrified of "the complete works of Mouser on DC" - 34,000+ posts!?
tellme
20  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 04:55:26 PM
You'd make a great teacher Tao
I'm going to 'listen-in' as I'm learning here too thumbs up

PS if you want the forum to display just text (and not mess around with html etc.) there's
  • disable bbc code button/ tags: [nobbc][/nobbc]
  • code highlighting drop down box

- both visible when you go to preview (as opposed to quick reply)

Thank you!

Meanwhile, I tend to post-and-modify, so I don't see "nobbc" - I do see a dropdown for "basic text" - is that roughly the same thing?
21  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 02:04:47 PM

Yeah, DC has its own chat room!
Not everyone does know about it, but it's no secret, just not really advertised.
http://www.donationcoder....rum/index.php?action=chat

You can right click it and create a new tab right here in the browser. It's a little finicky, but it works pretty well unless you have heavy firewalling or something at work. But your manager knows you are trying to get him answers so he shouldn't worry if you visit there.

22  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 01:59:40 PM
sorry, in short, will the links in the index file I emailed, work? ie. download the actual files?
let aside security and that I would email the link and not the file or anything else

Again this is ringing my alarm bells with mixed purposes.

Do you want to come to the chat room for a bit?

Then later we can post a summary here in the thread.

23  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 01:38:23 PM
sorry, I don't know how the html file knows its url and parent web path and you answer "it 'just' knows" !

I see nothing inside the html file that contains its url

it seems the web browser when it opens an html and sees hyperlinks in it with no path, it automatically takes the same path of the url that was downloaded

but if you take that html file and send it in an email attached, and open it from that email, will these Href links without path, work?
if they work I will get mad!

so, if they don't work, and they only work when the index html is downloaded, there is no chance to do what I want, one thing of which was to have the index file (I said xls, you made it html) to be stored locally!

can we do this?
I edit the xls file to add the filenames and possibly add new files I have uploaded
the html at the time it is downloaded, it AUTOMATICALLY reads and grabs the hyperlinks from the xls file and displays the latest uptodate index

is that possible?

that would be interesting

I think you might be drifting a little where a couple of your desires run opposite to each other! Again I'll try to answer these out of order in what I hope makes sense.

"...but if you take that html file and send it in an email attached, and open it from that email, will these Href links without path, work? If they work I will get mad!"

So let's not make you mad!

You shouldn't be emailing the index file. Leaving aside security on who is authorized to look at files on the server, you would email the authorized group the *link to the index file on the server*. The index file lives on the server just like any of the other files that get up there. (Otherwise, why have a web server at all? It's not software, it's just a file.)  

PS in all these posts the DC board software adds random things to my posts that are not there!

So anyway, for example in my server, it was my fault in our example I used file names with spaces. It's tough to do prototypes because in prototyping you take shortcuts! I don't do a lot of web work so I was using file names with spaces. So I renamed the index with dashes which should come through as a straight link.

So my "hard link" would be
http://www.freevoteusa.co...Excel-Produced-Index.html

But you were asking that if people move the files around, that "hard link" breaks. So I went the other way. If you load the index up to the web server where all the files are, then you *browse* to the index, it "finds" everything in that folder. Then someone wants to move all the files say to a "completed folder". Sure. So you move the index file there too, and it still "finds" the files again. That's what I hope you were asking.

You can't simultaneously (easily) have an index file on your local machine that looks at the web server AND flexible enough to still find files when people move them around on the server.

So if I had an index on my local C drive, it would need a "hard link"
http://www.freevoteusa.co...Excel-Produced-Index.html
to find the stuff on the web server. But then when someone moves the file out from under you, that link would break.

You can re-do the index, but it takes a few more steps.

I know, limits of proprietary data, but ask your manager if there are a couple of very non-sensitive files (like maybe a readme and a boring memo) we can use together to take our example past one step of these prototypes and do ten minutes of "real work". A small piece of this is you are having a little trouble converting my prototype to your real situation.

I'll add a few more notes in the next post to keep this from becoming a wall of text!

24  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: In search of an alternative to InfoSelect ... on: March 24, 2015, 01:19:52 PM
Forgot this was here  embarassed.

Been using MyInfo for quite a time, now.  Not as complete as InfoSelect (name as was sold to me), but close, and I don't have to pay $100 annual update - although I might, with a few changes - as was necessary with InfoSelect.  My disaffection with InfoSelect began when an update trashed my file history, running into nearly a decade, with no chance of recovery within the program.  Yeah, there were backups, but the same thing happened.  Lamentations to InfoSelect went unanswered, so I quit the program - I've no use for developers that don't respond (reminiscent of my lifetime license to WinZip which was not respected when Nico Mak (?) sold it to current developers).

Right now, MyInfo serves to capture and retain my needs/preferences.  Several limitations exist, but they be bearable, and the developer(s) seem amenable to suggestion, albeit somewhat dilatory in implementation at times.

(I distrust OneNote, Evernote and the like because too many cloud leaks/break-ins/intrusions have occurred.  Was an avid Evernote user until it migrated to a cloud-based format/venue.)

Hi Barney,
I have been a fan and promoting MyInfo for a while now. I wasn't aware there is any $100/year annual update! I do recommend the Pro version, but I thought if you get it once, you should be good for a while. I landed on MyInfo because it was the only other program I found that did certain export features and I found a "nuclear" bug with TreeDB that made that program absolutely unusable at any level, right at the same time they took down the support forum and never answered a tech support question from me ever again!

And the developer of MyInfo really is pretty responsive.

It might be fun if we traded a couple of MyInfo notes ... pun intended!
cheesy

There are several good programs out there, each with a slightly different focus. So my top level advice when people wade into this topic is to do it in stages - first take a slightly dreamy approach if you've never used any program like these before, and just dawdle with semi-made-up data, like if you have a few hobby text files. Not "asdfasfdsgsdgds", but for example I have a collection of fortune cookies, and another file on tv actor info. So then you can see what "real" data looks like, dreamily.

Then softly begin to wonder "would I want a program to do X"? Sometimes it's possible, sometimes it's not.

And then slowly keep an eye out for what you think is a "killer feature" that you "just must have". That can often break a tie when two programs have slightly different sets of annoyances, but if one has the killer feature, it wins the tiebreak.

Does that make sense to y'all? It's what got me through testing about 10 of these programs to a finalist I am quite happy with for a decent time now.


25  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: how can I do this in excel? on: March 24, 2015, 12:58:56 PM
oh I see now
well, not exactly what I was looking for
but it is a good suggestion to replace the index from an xls file to a html file

1) I don't understand how the html file is produced from the excel file
2) Also, I don't understand, how the Href tag works.
3) And how the html file can 'know' its url and thus search for the specific files in that directory.

Can you explain these things to me please?

Also, couldn't we embed that html file into an excel document, so that when I download the excel file, it will display inside the html index?
Or isn't it possible to make an excel file that will open the html index and convert the links into the correct ones? ie. the filenames with the path of the current web folder?

Let's look at those in slightly different order.

The html file source looks like this:  (Modified for this post!) (And that URL tag is not in there!)

<HTML>      <BR>
<Body>      <BR>
      <BR>
      <BR>
   <A Href="a.txt"> Top important file for Kalos!! - a.txt [/url]    <BR>
   <A Href="b.txt"> b.txt [/url]    <BR>
   <A Href="c.txt"> c.txt [/url]    <BR>
      <BR>
      <BR>
</Body>      <BR>
</Html>      

So for #3, because it is in the same folder as the files, it "just knows" because it's assuming it's in the same folder, and it is. A slightly fancier way to say it is that it is just what basic spec web behavior is - look in the same folder until you tell it to look anywhere else.

For #2, "Anchor" is the A letter, and that too "just is" - it's the raw command to produce a link. It basically says "look here for the file" but then "display the link like whatever comes next". The middle half is basically any text you want to put there.

Then it just closes the link so the computer knows it's done.

BR is a line break.

I didn't spend any time putting any fancy header text on there, but once the basics work, you can fiddle with that later.

For #1, How it is produced, it's basically the right couple of columns of the excel file copied wholesale and pasted into the text html file. Notice for later you can put other things in the excel file you don't need to copy over. That's for another day.

So once you get going, you just paste the list of files in the left couple of columns, and the right side is supposed to automatically concatenate them together to produce your index file.

"Also, couldn't we embed that html file into an excel document, so that when I download the excel file, it will display inside the html index?
Or isn't it possible to make an excel file that will open the html index and convert the links into the correct ones? ie. the filenames with the path of the current web folder?"

These make less sense. You were saying a big restriction was you couldn't load a lot of stuff up on that server. So the excel file is down on your machine where you're working on it. So you're not downloading it anywhere - you already have it on your machine. And you really can't try to embed the excel file inside the html one - that starts to get way out of hand. The production flow runs the other way. Your excel file is your "engine" that does all your work, and "12 clicks later" you have a simple html index. As long as that html index is in the same folder as the files, it shouldn't need a full path - that's what you wanted earlier, flexibility to move the files and not break the index.

And don't try to "super optimize it" to save 1 step - that just makes it get all messy! Once you get the proof of concept working like tomos was saying, it really is as easy as "drop file list into excel, copy right few columns of excel, open text file, control-v paste and save" and it's done. Fast and ruthless.

The other guys are right that later you'll want a parallel investigation into content systems, but this was supposed to get "this month's problems" solved in under a day once you get the idea, and then you can grind out a more thorough review of a few different content systems and maybe even get your IT guy or someone to engage a thorough test.

Does that help?






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