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i was thinking of an option on the saved formatting dialog, but yes, that would just as well.

thanks

jack

is it possible to format the text on the clipboard without pasting? so that i can paste later.

i often use remote sessions on other machines and would find this useful for that. also, i have some autohotkey scripts that process text that is already on the clipboard... CHS can easily do a bit of preprocessing of copied for me, but i don't want to paste the result, just to leave it for the autohotkey scripts.

jack

very nice.

i'm not changing though

i looked on the web site, just in case there was a free version... i can't see one. and at home i use linux these days and i couldn't see a linux version either.

thanks

jack

yes, the  EmEditor looks good there. for real files, would the tabs be varying sizes, to match the length of the file names?

jack

[Lisp]

yes, i can sympathize with that.

just to make you certain that you'd hate the scripting in my emacs, here's a short function to load many files:

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(defun load-many-files
    (
	~files (get-tty-file "load all these files:  ")
	~recursive (get-tty-string "recursive? (y/n) [N] ")
    )
    ~target
 
    (if (= ~recursive "y") 
	(setq ~target (expand-file-name-recursive ~files))
	(setq ~target (expand-file-name ~files))
    )				; if
    (save-window-excursion
	(while (!= ~target "")
	    (visit-file ~target)
	    (beginning-of-file)
	    (sit-for 0)
 
	    (if (= ~recursive "y")
		(setq ~target (expand-file-name-recursive ""))
		(setq ~target (expand-file-name ""))
	    )			; if
 
	)				; while
    )    			; save-window-excursion
)				; defun - load-many-files

jack

TED Notepad and Crimson Editor both have it on Ctrl-D, and much extra kudos to TED Notepad for making Shift-Ctrl-D extend the selection to the next word.  EmEditor has it on Alt-F8, but I couldn't see such a feature in EditPad Pro on short acquaintance.

Item: bookmarks that behave in a particular manner.  I prefer the sort where you have just two hotkeys, one of which toggles a bookmark on the line the cursor is on, and the other of which jumps to the next bookmark in a circular queue.  Crimson Editor has this, and makes the whole line coloured, which makes bookmarks really stand out from the rest of the   text.  Some editors seem to use separate hotkeys for each bookmark, which tends to limit them to ten on the number keys.  That's what EditPad looked like, but I admit I need to look at it again.  Boxer has a hybrid; it uses toggles for the bookmarks, hotkeys, but numbers them, and only allows ten bookmarks per file.  However, I was interested to see it allows ten bookmarks per file for apparently as many files as you have open, and gives you a popup bookmark manager to keep track of them all.  I'd still prefer more than ten, but admit that if I really had to had that, I might be in the kind of trouble that would be better approached by cutting the task into smaller parts.

well, i can do the first in my emacs.

i can't immediately do the popup bookmark manager, but it wouldn't be hard to achieve.

i think that you should invest the time in learning an editor that is flexible enough to do whatever you want. you can go round thousands of editors and there will always be some feature missing. my personal editing environment is flexible enough to change to match the different things i want to do, so i've been using it for many years. when i started, html and xml did not exist!

what you choose to use is up to you. Vim would no doubt do (i've tried vim... i can't get on with it). my light emacs would probably do. Gnu emacs would do.

what about jedit? that's very nice, with lots of plugins and you can hack it to do what you want... lots of windowy things.
historically, jedit was rather slow to start, but these days either they've fixed that or the hardware is much better, so the startup time is not really an issue.

jack

well, it seems to be a cross between a research tool, a mindmapping tool, and a Getting Things Done tool.

it is quite interesting.

personally, for saving stuff from the web i really like zotero, and for GTD i'm using ThinkingRock. but i might have a bit of a ply with personalbrain, just to see whether i can make it work for task-oriented stuff.

jack

no, it's not a mindmapping tool. it just looks a bit like that. it zooms in and out depending on what you focus on.

it's definitely worth playing with for the fun of it, even if you don't use it.

jack

you might or might not like PersonalBrain from http://www.thebrain.com/

there is a free edition. it's a bit like an interactive mindmap, but you can add multiple tags to any item and can search for tags or text.

i've played a little with it, but haven't used it for anything real.

jack

well, i hate to get dragged in to discussions like this one. editors are worse than religion...

for about 25 years i've been using barry's emacs. first on VAX/VMS, then on various flavours of windows, and occasionally on linux.

it's a very small emacs, but there is a huge flexibility that lets me do, for example:

• i can mark a region the windows way.
• i can mark a region by setting a mark and navigating to whereever and setting another mark.
• i can do bookmarks.
• not sure about what automatic backups are, but emacs will write out checkpoint files after an elapsed time or after a specified number of changes. additionally, it will journal the changes and recover. it's possible to have both checkpointing and journalling!
• i wrote my own function to view just the lines that match a pattern. i can navigate from there, or make changes there and apply them back to the original buffer.
• i can have as many paste buffers as i like.
• i load hundreds of files into the editor
• i can edit files that have millions of characters on a single line

...and so on. i haven't got a tabbed interface... and what happens to a tabbed interface if you load 100 files?

the editor is at http://www.barrys-emacs.org/ and you would probably need a bit of advice to get it all set up, plus some stuff from me.


jack

the klip display is limited to 120 chars, but the searching is also limited to 120 chars.

if i have the following in my clipboard history:

vvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvv vvvvvvvv vvvvv wibbly wobbly

...then i i can't find 'wobbly' at all and 'wibbly' i can find only by typing the first bit of it. if i type the whole word, the line disappears from the list.

is it possible to search the whole of the captured clips, even if only the first 120 chars are displayed?

jack

actually, FileHamster would be ok for deletions too, cos you have the option to delete the FileHamster copy when you delete the original. your sync to your external disk would then see the deletion.

jack

what about FileHamster? you set it to monitor folders and it copies all changed files to it's backup folders. you could then just do an ordinary sync of the FileHamster backup folders with your external disk. since the FileHamster folders would contain only the changed files, it would be quick.

i dunno what you'd do about deletions...

http://www.mogware.com/FileHamster/


or, somewhere, i've seen a directory comparison program that will compare against a list. you could probably use such a thing to compare against a file list and then back up the changed items to your external disk.

jack

i've upgraded the alpha version several times. i see that in my Hotkeys list i now have 'Toggle FARR - Custom' defined 5 times, each time setting up the same (corrrect) key.

i assume there should be just one of these.

jack

i found the performance problem with including Desktop in the search.

i had a shortcut that went to something like:

     \\DeadComputer

i deleted the shortcut and the performance problem disappeared. everything is just super now!

jack

now trying .130

i can't tell whether it's much smoother, cos it's running on my work machine and i need a vpn connection to it today.

however, i discovered that my long wait problem seems to depend on which folders it searches. when i include the desktop the searches can take ages. remove the desktop, it's quick. put the desktop back again and it's slow.

does this make any possible sense? is there something different about the desktop?

jack

i think that would be a good thing to do, although it might be a little confusing. it's difficult to tell without experiencing it

jack

i'm using .129

Tab completion problem...


when i start with 'C:\Program Files' the first item in the listing is 'C:\Program Files'.  pressing Tab does nothing, which is not surprising because the first entry matches what i just typed. Tab does pick up whatever line i put the cursor on, but i can't get the top entry because it's the same as the current text.

i haven't tried the Tab before, so i'm not sure whether this is a bug or a feature... but it feels like a bug.

cheers


jack

i'm using 2.00.128

i have settings not too dissimilar from those shown by justice. i've been experimentining with them a little... currently:

max files in history: 50
max entries to display: 15 ( a  recent change, mostly i've been on 9)
max entries in extended: 30

however, the problem is not general performance or general searching. it's when the search seems to be for one or perhaps two characters, resulting in over 400 hits (although only a small fraction are displayed, of course)

jack

this is mostly super stuff. thanks!

i do have a problem with the incremental searching.

i get times then the list update takes ages. the problem seems to be most evident when i type a couple of letters, such as 'ho', and then realise i got it wrong, so i delete the 'o'... i then have to wait about 10 seconds for a screen update.

it feels as though i should be able to set something that says 'don't do incremental searching below a threshold of n characters' and then i could set it to 3 and everything would be fine.


jack