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1  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Animal Friends thread on: August 19, 2014, 08:04:20 PM
OK...Not entirely "Animal Friends" but it is nice nevertheless.

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2  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anybody else sick of hearing "OMG Facebook is spying on us!"? on: August 19, 2014, 05:27:24 PM
As an addition to the above...how hard would it be to do the following example?:

(Current Permission): Take pictures and videos: This permission allows you to take photos and videos within the Messenger app to easily send to your friends and other contacts.

(Proposed Revision or Additional Permission): Take pictures and videos: This permission allows you to take photos and videos within the Messenger app to easily send to your friends and other contacts when explicitly requested by the end-user ONLY.

So basically...in your applications manifest, instead of having 
Formatted for XML with the GeSHI Syntax Highlighter [copy or print]
  1. <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.CAMERA" />
you would have something like 
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  1. <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.CAMERABYREQUEST" />

My guess is that this might be tough to implement if a user action can be spoofed, which is pretty normal stuff to do.

I can only think of hardware buttons working here, which would muck up the UX.

I didn't think it would be easy to implement as such, the idea was simply to throw some ideas in the pond for ways it could actually be made more sane cheesy
3  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anybody else sick of hearing "OMG Facebook is spying on us!"? on: August 19, 2014, 05:22:19 PM
The real solution would be to allow users to deny permissions on a permission-by-permission basis (per app), so that if I didn't want Facebook to have access to my GPS, I could simply deny the location permission and anytime it tried to access the GPS, it would simply get an OS-level error/denial and be unable to get info from the GPS.

Then they could request all the permissions they wanted, and all I'd grant them is the ability to talk to the internets to deliver me my LOLcats and family photos.  Thmbsup

I do agree with this actually...However, it should give detailed explanations of the features that will no longer work when you remove a permission (Because...well...people are idiots).

However...where would be the issue with implementing both ideas?  Allow people like Facebook to only be able to use the Camera when the user requests...but they can also deny the permission forever (or at least until they re-enable it).

OR...you could even go as far as defaulting all Android phones to have security popups much like UAC in Windows...so when an app requests permission to use Feature X, the user would be then informed and asked to choose Yes or No.
4  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anybody else sick of hearing "OMG Facebook is spying on us!"? on: August 19, 2014, 05:07:21 PM
As an addition to the above...how hard would it be to do the following example?:

(Current Permission): Take pictures and videos: This permission allows you to take photos and videos within the Messenger app to easily send to your friends and other contacts.

(Proposed Revision or Additional Permission): Take pictures and videos: This permission allows you to take photos and videos within the Messenger app to easily send to your friends and other contacts when explicitly requested by the end-user ONLY.

So basically...in your applications manifest, instead of having  
Formatted for XML with the GeSHI Syntax Highlighter [copy or print]
  1. <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.CAMERA" />
you would have something like  
Formatted for XML with the GeSHI Syntax Highlighter [copy or print]
  1. <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.CAMERABYREQUEST" />
5  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anybody else sick of hearing "OMG Facebook is spying on us!"? on: August 19, 2014, 05:02:37 PM
Maybe they DO have ulterior motives...maybe not...nobody knows but them  undecided

However...the point isn't about the possibility of it happening in the future...people are getting up in arms about the PERMISSIONS because they have jumped on the band wagon for something they have no idea about.  It is purely a permissions based argument which can ONLY be solved at Operating System Level...Facebook...like every other developer of Android Apps, have no choice over the CONTENTS within that permission...merely the permission itself.  Now...if Google implemented a permission that allowed developers to strictly say "ONLY WHEN YOU REQUEST IT" next to things like Camera, Microphone and such...rather than just a vague "Can be used at any time, for any reason, by anybody" then this would be easily solved...because if Facebook or anybody else still wanted to use the system wide permission to be able to use it 24/7 without further permission...then we would have an issue...however...on the other side of the coin...if the added permissions could be implemented by Android to get rid of such stupidity, and Facebook chose to use that...then there would be no issue at all!

The problem isn't Facebook and what they COULD do...the problem is with the Android OS and what they WON'T fix...
6  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anybody else sick of hearing "OMG Facebook is spying on us!"? on: August 18, 2014, 09:48:16 PM
The problem is that if I'm going to use the Facebook messaging system, the only thing I want to use it for is essentially as an IM client. I don't want it accessing my contacts or my camera or my microphone or my location or anything else.

The very act of granting it permission to do those things means that it can at any time access those functionalities of your device. And if you trust the app to only do it when you explicitly give it permission to (e.g., only access the camera/gallery when you're taking/attaching a photo to your IM) then great! Use it. But IMO, Facebook has already demonstrated time and again that they cannot be trusted. They will abuse these permissions, they will take every advantage they can to collect as much information about you as possible.

You give your built in SMS app permission to use services that cost you money...and compose/send SMS...

Your dialing app has permissions to use your microphone and such...

Your camera app has permissions to...hmmmmm...take photos...

All of which are basic and standard...yet people ain't having a retarded fit about all these...WHY do people have to be so idiotic?  Seriously..May actually sign up to these guys...

http://www.mars-one.com/
7  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Need help finding eBooks! on: August 18, 2014, 09:04:08 PM
Cuffy is on a mission! cheesy

I am directing her to this thread...easier than me sending all the links haha
8  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Need help finding eBooks! on: August 18, 2014, 06:59:00 PM
I am looking for as many FREE eBooks based on Psychology, Social Work/Care (UK/England) and anything else that may help my Mrs with her studies.  She is starting her Higher Certification in Social Care before moving on to a Masters Degree and full Doctorate...but right now, she is trying to take in as much information as she can muster, so I want to help her as much as possible smiley

If anybody has any resources then it would be greatly appreciated tongue

-Stephen
9  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anybody else sick of hearing "OMG Facebook is spying on us!"? on: August 17, 2014, 09:46:03 PM
Hey...if disparaging comments about Daily Mail shit means I see less stuff FROM the daily mail...I don't really see the problem Wink

Honestly though...we all know our information is being bought, linked, sold, auctioned, taken apart, put back together, and whatever else...life is life and the only way to solve it is to use Tor and register for everything under a pseudonym lol
10  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Anybody else sick of hearing "OMG Facebook is spying on us!"? on: August 17, 2014, 08:38:51 PM
On the point of cameras pointing at the ceiling when not in use...I have that habit...more for the fact it freaks me out knowing I have a lens pointed at me...not through the thought somebody could see me...couldn't care less about that...not much to see Wink

Anyhow...the point wasn't what they could possibly do in the future (Which...I highly doubt they would do for very long before somebody clicked on to it)...it is about what they are doing now...People have gotten hysterical in typical Daily Mail style about it, when it is unfounded and pointless.  Yes there are dodgy applications that WILL do all the dodgy crap that people are thinking Facebook are doing now...but being a HUGE company...there are more eyes watching them, than there could ever be watching us Wink  The power of the people far outweighs that of companies.

Typically, people go crazy about it...yet they still use it...personally I couldn't care less about the privacy aspect of things when it comes to me...I only put the information that I don't care about sharing, online...anything else...I NEVER put online and NEVER have...and to this day...that information still isn't available online smiley

We could go on and on about the politics of it all but realistically...even you can agree...when they have the eyes of the world staring in their direction...it would be a bloody miracle if they managed to sneak anything by the world without somebody noticing within 30 minutes of it happening.

I saw something recently that actually made me laugh, and does somewhat fit perfectly into this situation...

"Tell people not to panic over Ebola, and people freak out...tell people to panic over global warning and they reply "lol...where's my coat?""

Don't wanna get onto the whole Ebola subject...or global warming for that matter...just feels like it fits here.

My guess is that if you knew more about what is happening with Big Data you would be scared shitless and on the opposite side of the fence.

I actually do keep on top of these things...and yet..not actually worried...I have no reason to be...like I mentioned above...the information that I don't want people to know...I have never put online in any form.  They can sell any of the data that I have shared...if it is worth something to them...good for them...just wish I could make some money from it Wink
11  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Has someone died in that house? on: August 17, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
Bit creepy don't ya think?

Also....Who gives a crap if somebody has died in your house before you lived there?  I almost guarantee that somebody has died in the house I have...and I bet the same for most houses in this village...same with the factories around here (Was originally an industrial village for mills, now famous for the 'Spinning Jenny (Wikipedia)')
12  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Win8 upgrade do-over on: August 17, 2014, 02:59:14 PM
 tellme When was you in my cellar?  huh
13  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Win8 upgrade do-over on: August 17, 2014, 02:37:55 PM
As a current Windows 8.1 user...where the hell has my Windows 7 ISO gone?
14  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Anybody else sick of hearing "OMG Facebook is spying on us!"? on: August 17, 2014, 02:34:23 PM
So...once again, Facebook are in the spotlight...this time it is because of permissions used within the Facebook Messenger Android App.

This story has been hitting my Facebook Feed, and also been featured on TV/Radio...and I am sick of hearing it...It all feels like it has been written by The Daily Mail (We all know how much crap they put into the world...)

To sum it up...people are bitching that Facebook Messenger needs to use things like Contacts, Camera and Microphone...I mean...It asks your permission to do so...not like they are HIDING it...also...those permissions are generic as hell and used for specific features within a crap load of different software...like...say...You would obviously have to give a custom dialing app permission to make calls and view your contact list and such, much like you would expect to give an app that allows you to take and edit pictures, access to use your camera...yet all of a sudden, people are going ape-shit about Facebook Messenger wanting permission to use these things...

As I got fed up with it, I posted this on my Facebook to try shut people up...

15  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Show us a photo of your mutt or other creatures.. on: August 17, 2014, 02:24:36 PM
my old dog Tia [...] her and her brother got stolen from my front garden about 8 years ago Sad

jeez, that's the pits ohmy Sad

Yeah Sad Spent ages looking for them.  We had an idea who took them but no proof.  I had also been offered a fair amount of money for the dogs within earshot of that person we suspected, so that somewhat made me even more suspicious of them.  Like I said though, never any proof so nothing I could do.
16  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Show us a photo of your mutt or other creatures.. on: August 17, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
Just found some videos of my old dog Tia before her and her brother got stolen from my front garden about 8 years ago Sad

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Ejdoy1G5Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Ejdoy1G5Q</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uDZdzve2HY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uDZdzve2HY</a>
17  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Animal Friends thread on: August 17, 2014, 10:39:49 AM
Quote from: Youtube Video
In the city of Phetchaburi in Thailand, a dog discovered the fish out of the water and unconscious on the pavement. It will try not to let them die by spraying water with its snout. Besides the fish are few puddles. The dog will then sprinkle the fish, as if he wished they would not die. Touching!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HFodb9Ezyw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HFodb9Ezyw</a>
18  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: HDMI vs Football on: August 15, 2014, 11:26:16 AM
What I mean is...American Football...or what you guys call Soccer? tongue
19  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: HDMI vs Football on: August 15, 2014, 10:51:49 AM
Seeing as I am being lazy...do you mean Football as in...well...actuall FOOTball...or the crap Americans call Football which you rarely use your foot to play?
20  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Laptop Battery Record! on: August 14, 2014, 07:54:42 PM
If you have run it at room temperature, and are going to try freezing...you should also try putting it in the oven...for comparable test data  Wizard
21  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting (albeit minor) squabble about Game Monetization on: August 14, 2014, 07:50:32 PM
Cash Shop Games (Which are usually free to play) are a huge business model purely because you entice your fan base onto your game...get them hooked...then reel them in.  It's very simple.

One of the reasons that I never got into World of Warcraft was the fact I had to pay up front for a game I potentially wouldn't play enough to be able to validate the amount of money spent each month...same with EVE Online and a few others...yet on games like Forsaken World, War of The Immortals, Battle of The Immortals, Tera...and more...I was able to get into the game BEFORE handing over any cash...and because I was lazy and impatient...I headed over to the cash shop...took out my credit card..and spent some money.

I didn't really mind spending the money purely because...well...those people have to eat as well!  They don't charge for their game...they don't throw advertising into it...so where the hell else would they make their money?

Plenty of games publishers noticed a HUGE increase in profit when they moved away from Pay2Play to Free2Play (Cash Shop) mode...it's a simple matter of math........Go Pay2Play and attract maybe 10% of people who would otherwise want to play you game (For whatever reason...maybe they can't afford $10 EVERY month....or maybe they just don't WANT to pay that)...yet..go Free2Play...attract the other 90...the 10% who paid will then spend that money on cash shop items because they are used to paying you...and even if only 45% of the 90% remainding actually spend money...the developer is already earning more...the more people that play, the more people know about their game...word of mouth gets out...youtube videos get uploaded, more people register and login, which means more people spending money...even if they only spend $15 ONCE...that is $15 they otherwise would never have got...pretty simple to figure out which is the better option really Wink
22  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: HDMI cables on: August 14, 2014, 07:40:28 PM

Handheld Device Markup Language? tongue
23  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: R.I.P. Robin Williams on: August 14, 2014, 07:26:18 PM
Great Obit by Russell Brand

http://www.theguardian.co...vine-madness-broken-world

Quote
Is it melancholy to think that a world that Robin Williams can’t live in must be broken? To tie this sad event to the overarching misery of our times? No academic would co-sign a theory in which the tumult of our fractured and unhappy planet is causing the inherently hilarious to end their lives, though I did read that suicide among the middle-aged increased inexplicably in 1999 and has been rising ever since. Is it a condition of our era?

Russel Brand never ceases to amaze me...I used to think "Wow...just another drug crazed 'funny man'" and yet, his insightful and intellectual comments make me realize that I was a complete asshole for judging a book by its cover.

On the main note:  Robin touched many generations and was an amazing actor and comedian and will be sadly missed by a LOT of people.

Rest in Peace dude, and I hope you are up there making all our lost loved ones laugh.
24  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: August 10, 2014, 12:37:15 PM
My GF (much to my surprise huh ) brought this utterly tasteless one to my attention. (Go figure! tellme) Definitely NFC and NSFW:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kkpm31cbQg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kkpm31cbQg</a>

LOL
25  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Animal Friends thread on: August 08, 2014, 09:21:54 PM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IulFwMdvgYc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IulFwMdvgYc</a>
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