Your welcome Jim. ... I did find that some of those, even tho they are the sites ips, may not let you get there... some give an 'access denied' such as pctools and others automatically change to the written url, like norton, right after you use the ip to get there... working around in those sites will take alot of copying and pasting ... symantec/norton won't let you (or maybe just me) use the ip in place of '
www.symantec.com' then '/some/rest/of/an/official/link' to get around in there.