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Living Room / Re: How do you tag (or even organize) your files?

« on: August 19, 2009, 05:11 AM »

thank you sword for your answer
I might not completely understand all the details so far, but it is definitely very interesting

All pages/data gathered with FireFox, organized in RTF, JPG or BMP and sent to temporary formatting folders

I'm not sure that my understanding of this is the correct one, it is maybe a language issue or a "my brain" issue, but if you'd like to gimme a little explanation, feel free to do it

and this is interesting too

I'm one of those who got bogged down with too many tags early on and settled on the simple system of adding a small number of tags to the filename.

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Living Room / Re: How do you tag (or even organize) your files?

« on: August 12, 2009, 03:58 AM »

Hi armando

thanks a lot for your detailed answer, very interesting

it raises a couple of questions

ok for the ADS
and tag2find, if it does not seem to have much activity, is not dead apparently, martin from tag2find's latest post was in july
we'll see (but I'm not sure to be that interested)

thank you for what you say about favourites and bookmarks
I actually never noticed that they were different (yeah, yeah, yeah...), I thought only the name was different
I gonna investigate a bit

I do use my tagging system in a database application calles InfoQube. So my system is basically the same, but I enter my tags in a special "field" for each item... Of course, InfoQube's database is only searchable from inside IQ though -- well Archivarius is actually able to search display the DB content, but it's not very... aesthetical (just plain txt).

this software seems to be very interesting, free at the moment, and a portable version exists
I'll give it a look and try


how do you save web pages ? I'm not talking about favourites or bookmarks
as mentioned previously I'm using zotero in firefox but I'd like to find another way
that would mean .htm or .mht or .maff I think, and I like none of them (htm because of file+folder(=pollution), the 2 others for integrity and compatibility consideration)

I never liked the idea of poluting my filesystem with tons of secondary files... Plus it'd be extremely hard to manage -- but I won't enter the details now.

you're right, I do agree on these 2 points, but thought that maybe someone more expert than I could have done sthg


when I discovered evernote, I also discovered the possibility to ocr text images and keep at the same time the original image, I found that great, I actually was looking for such a thing for a long time
and the I discovered that acrobat could do that too (and probably for a long time...), and more than decently in the last 9th version (I read that the ocr engine has been completely rewritten)
so the question is simple (and the answer probably obvious) : can archivarius index this kind of pdf made of a combination of, let's say, jpgs but ocr'ed ?


do you have a way to search on all your search engines with just one action ? I mean for a basic search, 'cause I suppose that archivarius, evernote, and infoqube authorise complex search actions that are not exactly the same and then hard or impossible from outside.

You need to be slightly disciplined though, and be willing to learn (easy) AHK a bit.

You're right, except that I think "strictly" will be necessary

I did not know AHK before, I find it very powerful, and yes, pretty easy to learn (for my basic needs at least)
question off topic : I very recently bought a tabletpc and was hoping to be able to use the expendable text capability of AHK with the text recognition, but, noops, it does not work, the "space" or "enter" or punctuation character is not recognized. I must confess I haven't done any further investigations, maybe I should take a look towards stenography softwares, if existing, it could help. Well, just in case, I wanted to know if you know sthg about AHK and tabletpc, or expandable text capability and tabletpc.
off topic end

thank you for your help

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Living Room / Re: How do you tag (or even organize) your files?

« on: August 11, 2009, 09:47 AM »

hello everybody

sorry for digging out
maybe exhumation or excavation would be more appropriate

this post is probably a bit long, sorry for that

I'd like to know if you have any new system or software about tagging files
'cause it's becoming a real (and "real" is a tiny euphemism) mess in my hard drives/computers and so on

thank you very much armando for all your ideas

so far I'm still in the folder style organisation, but it is not possible anymore

I've started to tag web pages I save localy with the firefox extension zotero
I know it is not intended for that but it allows tags, highlights, notes, keep the url, would probably be transferable easily on mac or linux (I'm on xp)
but it is a bit slow, it is a database (how robust ?) and I don't know if it is searchable from outside 'cause I'm not yet using any local search engine

and I'm starting to tag bookmarks with firefox 3.5, but I'm still a noob
are they searchable from any search engine ? don't know

plus evernote : tagging possibilities, but same question about search

I tried a while ago tag2find, tagg or ultrafolder but abandonned them : too slow, too complicated, too many clicks, too database, too proprietary, too simple, too...

so the ****ing mess style is now my way to organise things (very useful, efficient, not time consuming at all...  )


I read this topic and probably need to reread it I think (almost everything in it is new to me)

but so far, armando, you convinced me that tags within the file name is the only robust solution (actually I thought that before but was too lazy or ignorant to do sth)

I think I understand (but not completely sure  ) what you mean by
the abcz system and your tag/metatag system
the expandable text capability of autohotkey

I have to try to really use farr (it is installed but not used)
about local search engine, are you still using archivarius or x1 ?

I think the renaming capabilities of xyplorer are good enough for me
and I like the ability to color files (kind of temporary tags for me)

I thought that creating a .txt file for each file could have been a solution to avoid the length limitation on the name, to create note, to paste a url, to be searchable
but it is probably a bad solution 'cause nobody is doing so, I guess it is too long but maybe could be automated, and also 'cause I've never been able to use the hardlink possibility with ntfs, besides this hardlinking possibility is probably not portable
and lastly what about bookmarks, zoteros, and evernotes ?


well, many questions but I'm lost and your help will be highly appreciated

this topic is, on the web, what I've found the deepest about tagging files
I'm really surprised that there is not a damn software that would do the trick
I don't know, something like a multiplatorm soft embedding files or adding a couple of bytes to each file to allow hard tagging
I have to say that I know nothing in programming or computer stuff, I'm just a user, so if you feel I'm saying stupid things, you can tell me, I won't be offended

that's all for now
huhh, that's long... thank you if read till the end, and double thanx if you do answer