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Found Deals and Discounts / Re: PowerCmd on Bits du Jour
« on: May 01, 2008, 10:10 AM »
Steven,
We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I don't appreciate being called a scoundrel or having my integrity questioned, but I'm a big boy and will survive.
On Echinacea -- find me one peer reviewed research study in a reputable medical journal that proves its efficacy at treating or preventing illness (e.g., penicillin can provably wipe out many bacterial infections). If something isn't FDA approved for treatment, it generally means that either the FDA is too slow to act (which sometimes it is), or that the "supplement" has absolutely no proven medicinal effect. The fact that there's disagreement on Echinacea means that, as you say, caveat emptor -- the payment method is merely a conduit and not responsible. Bank ATMs dispense cash that can be used to buy dangerous and unsafe goods. I am not a medical expert and that's precisely the point of this analogy -- I don't believe Echinacea does any good which is why I don't buy it, and you disagree with me. If you want to buy it, I'm not going to stop you -- if I'm Visa or TrialPay and you are committed to buying this product, we are not going to stop you because as non-doctors, we don't necessarily know which medical "expert" to believe and our specialty is processing payments for products that people want to get, and we have a clear feedback mechanism (like eBay) by which bad sellers are immediately removed from our system.
You're taking a few of the quotes out of context -- the "web of business relationships" was something that the New York Times wrote about us in a piece that was very positive about our model and customer experiences. The partnerships are the advertising partners (Gap, Discover Card, etc) we work with on the other end.
I think I can come up with a few more analogies that illustrate my point -- but we're not going to see eye to eye here, which is fine.
Alex
We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I don't appreciate being called a scoundrel or having my integrity questioned, but I'm a big boy and will survive.
On Echinacea -- find me one peer reviewed research study in a reputable medical journal that proves its efficacy at treating or preventing illness (e.g., penicillin can provably wipe out many bacterial infections). If something isn't FDA approved for treatment, it generally means that either the FDA is too slow to act (which sometimes it is), or that the "supplement" has absolutely no proven medicinal effect. The fact that there's disagreement on Echinacea means that, as you say, caveat emptor -- the payment method is merely a conduit and not responsible. Bank ATMs dispense cash that can be used to buy dangerous and unsafe goods. I am not a medical expert and that's precisely the point of this analogy -- I don't believe Echinacea does any good which is why I don't buy it, and you disagree with me. If you want to buy it, I'm not going to stop you -- if I'm Visa or TrialPay and you are committed to buying this product, we are not going to stop you because as non-doctors, we don't necessarily know which medical "expert" to believe and our specialty is processing payments for products that people want to get, and we have a clear feedback mechanism (like eBay) by which bad sellers are immediately removed from our system.
You're taking a few of the quotes out of context -- the "web of business relationships" was something that the New York Times wrote about us in a piece that was very positive about our model and customer experiences. The partnerships are the advertising partners (Gap, Discover Card, etc) we work with on the other end.
I think I can come up with a few more analogies that illustrate my point -- but we're not going to see eye to eye here, which is fine.
Alex
Hi Folks,
One more point.
The dubious registry products have jumped at the chance to look legitimate and
increase their activities using Trialpay.
Here are some products names that are using Trialpay. There may be more, as
these types of products operate in a murky realm.
Dubious
CleanMyPC
Registry Repair Pro
Registry Technician
TweakNow RegCleaner
Advanced Registry Optimizer (Sammsoft - reviews on File Forum, discussion on Security Stronghold)
Legit
Advanced Windows Care Professional - Iobit
Wise Registry Cleaner
Registry First Aid - Rose City
There was a Registry Cleaner that may not have been Eusings that seems to have
had a run as well, but no more. Hard to tell. Maybe Andy can tell use on that,
or any vetting at all, or responses, on the five above.
If anyone has had good experiences with the five I mark as "dubious", please share away.
Even if you have seen a real review from a reputable source (the top-ten-reviews site
is not reputable).
Caveat emptor.
Shalom,
Steven-Steven Avery (May 01, 2008, 09:52 AM)