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« Reply #775 on: October 26, 2009, 11:08:58 AM » |
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Guys,
The more I use wave for notes, the more I realize one thing:
Collaboration is the future, and it's here already.
Writing notes with more people is superior.
Notes to oneself are ok, but one should design for the more general
case, then n=1 is an special case.
Now, office 2010 offers collaboration in real time. Wave does that too.
My prediction is that from 2010 on, everyone will be used to documents
that can be changed in real time by more than one person.
Right now, a notetaker that offers real-time collaboration, and works
fine offline too is the way to go. I think Microsoft oneNote will get there first -they have it working already in their beta-, or someone doing a desktop client for wave.
If the latter, it could be open source and useful in more platforms.
Anyone using wave for notes here?
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« Reply #776 on: October 26, 2009, 11:16:04 AM » |
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I looked at Notezilla and it says "Stay Neat: Organize sticky notes inside folders to avoid clutter on your Windows Desktop." Does that mean I can view stickies within the program window instead of on the desktop?
You can have hierarchical folders of stickies where each sticky (whatever size you want) is completely visible, or can be on top of each other or moved in whatever arrangement you want. They can easily be moved from one folder to another. Can be on desktop if you prefer. If you have a lot it is difficult to see them all at the same time even if you have a very big screen. |
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« Reply #777 on: October 26, 2009, 11:18:18 AM » |
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If my Wave invite makes it (lol) I will attempt to use it for notes (and collaboration) too, even though I am more inclined to use something offline right now.
Downloading Onenote now.
Thank you Dormouse, I will download the Notezilla trial as well.
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« Reply #778 on: October 26, 2009, 06:14:34 PM » |
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Side note: So I go to MS's Onenote page ( http://trial.trymicrosoft...onenote&culture=en-CA) and download the Onenote 60 day trial. Now I am getting Windows update prompts for '2007 Microsoft Office Suite Service pack 1', Who says I have 2007 Office installed?  And 2007 office is not listed as a requirement for Onenote 2007 but maybe it is? then again Onenote seems to be working, at least the few minutes that I have tried it. I have a fully patched version of Office 2003, may be I should have downloaded Onenote 2003? |
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Paul Keith
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« Reply #779 on: October 26, 2009, 06:41:32 PM » |
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@rgdot, try Compendium. (Download the alpha release, even the developers recommend it.) http://compendium.open.ac...ute/download/download.htmIt's what I use for that purpose since I don't like the list look of most notetakers. The downside is that you won't get as much viewable notes because it's not in a list. (You do have a mini-map view if you press Alt+V + V though) It's also buggy. (but stable enough) Everytime you import your backups, all your notes with entry spaces gets destroyed and you get a /n mark per blank space. For example this post would become: It's also buggy. (but stable enough)/nEverytime you import your backups. It does have that hover effect you are looking for though. Edit: My apologies if I didn't mention it out front. I keep mentioning it in my posts, it was starting to sound redundant. |
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« Reply #780 on: October 26, 2009, 06:47:52 PM » |
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Thanx for the recommendation and link Paul, I will try it, looks interesting
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« Reply #781 on: October 27, 2009, 03:33:55 AM » |
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SNow I am getting Windows update prompts for '2007 Microsoft Office Suite Service pack 1', Who says I have 2007 Office installed? And 2007 office is not listed as a requirement for Onenote 2007 but maybe it is? then again Onenote seems to be working, at least the few minutes that I have tried it. I have a fully patched version of Office 2003, may be I should have downloaded Onenote 2003? By definition,if you have OneNote installed, MS will see that as Office; no idea how integrated the updates have to be, but maybe it is just the way they describe them. Whereas to many people the 2007 versions of many Office components are worse than 2003, OneNote "007 is much more useful than OneNote 2003. You made the right choice there. And you'd probably be getting similar messages about Office if you had gone 2003 anyway. Maybe someone who knows will comment on these bits. |
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« Reply #782 on: October 27, 2009, 04:22:34 AM » |
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btw onenote 2010 beta is out. I'm not sure how I got access, but it must not be very difficult. I think I filled a form as an academic.
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« Reply #783 on: October 27, 2009, 09:47:20 AM » |
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@Dormouse, Thank you, makes sense. Just made me laugh when I got a service pack that was ~194MB
Onenote and Compendium look nice, in different ways, may be I will look into Onenote 2010 somehow. Going to play with them more. Keeping my eyes open for others as well, including Notezilla and Evernote.
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« Reply #784 on: October 27, 2009, 10:05:17 AM » |
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@Dormouse, Thank you, makes sense. Just made me laugh when I got a service pack that was ~194MB
Onenote and Compendium look nice, in different ways, may be I will look into Onenote 2010 somehow. Going to play with them more. Keeping my eyes open for others as well, including Notezilla and Evernote.
I don't like Evernote's web version. Not because of the features, but more because I strongly prefer using localized software. I still use Evernote's version 2. Keep at Onenote, it may be just the thing for you. The consensus is that Onenote is one of the few applications that Microsoft got right. |
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« Reply #785 on: October 28, 2009, 01:25:41 AM » |
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Office 2010 public beta is supposed to be out soon. I've been using Outlook 2010 and it is a vast (like 2x) improvement over 2007. Haven't really played with OneNote too much so far, but from what I've read it sounds like a useful upgrade too.
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« Reply #786 on: October 29, 2009, 04:50:47 AM » |
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Well... looks like people use wave to collaborate on a doc, say a blog post... And the results are ... mixed. Here is a commentary, with link to the copy/paste of the resulting wave. It is horrendous from the point of view of writing style. It could be the 1-hr time limit, or it could be that we are not used to writing collaboratively. Writing is hard enough when done in isolation. THe hope is that writing collaboratively could help, but these first examples suggest that it doesn't. |
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« Reply #787 on: October 29, 2009, 05:06:44 AM » |
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urlwolf, it's kind of hard to spot the Wave link in the post.
You might want to post a direct link to it. (Although I was under the impression that you can't share a url via Wave)
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« Reply #788 on: November 02, 2009, 02:28:43 PM » |
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I don't like Evernote's web version. Not because of the features, but more because I strongly prefer using localized software. I still use Evernote's version 2.
Same here. I didn't want my data held hostage on someone else's servers, forcing me to keep paying to access what I had laboriously gathered. Besides, I'm in the UK, and don't really trust the quality of Internet connections. Evernote 2 was the way to stay. |
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« Reply #789 on: Today at 03:52:04 PM » |
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I have read this thread and all or most others on organizing and I wanted to get some feedback. What has been on my mind is finding a note repository or PIM that is capable of presenting a view of all my saved notes or appointments or tasks and to me this is important, not just their respective titles or headers but a more detailed view. There are examples that come close like Do-Organizer and others which have 'reports' but I believe these are more tailored for printing purposes. May be what I am looking for is to have my notes arranged on the screen like a mind mapper but again may be. Any thoughts? Point me to one discussed in this or other threads that may come close?  I almost posted a link for Text Block Writer - well why not - Text Block Writer which I havent tried yet but came across at this great blog here which it turns out is yours  lol |
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« Reply #790 on: Today at 05:48:15 PM » |
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I have read this thread and all or most others on organizing and I wanted to get some feedback. What has been on my mind is finding a note repository or PIM that is capable of presenting a view of all my saved notes or appointments or tasks and to me this is important, not just their respective titles or headers but a more detailed view. There are examples that come close like Do-Organizer and others which have 'reports' but I believe these are more tailored for printing purposes. May be what I am looking for is to have my notes arranged on the screen like a mind mapper but again may be. Any thoughts? Point me to one discussed in this or other threads that may come close? I almost posted a link for Text Block Writer - well why not - Text Block Writer which I havent tried yet but came across at this great blog here which it turns out is yours lol I'm going to have to compare Text Block Writer with OneNote. THey seem very similar. What are the strengths of each one? |
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« Reply #791 on: Today at 06:02:04 PM » |
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Thank you tomos. Text Block Writer is one of the ones I like and been trying along with the other recommendations like Compendium, OneNote, Notezilla
@superboyac I guess the main broad difference is that OneNote supports many kinds of notes besides just text input.
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